Comments on: (uk) Why Are There No Charities Specifically For White British People?

By: Bleak

Bleak — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:06:35 +0000

This is kind of like the condradictions around affirmative action. If you really take a step back and look at it all, it’s all personal and depends on how you take it personally. You may believe that you are being persecuted for being part of group that tends not too have too many problems in general, but because of an individual concern you feel much more persecuted against individually. You see, minority groups such as Asians and blacks are used to being identified as part of a group, rather than an individual. Whites are more used to being identified as individuals rather than being part of a group. The fact is, it’s not your fault or anyone’s fault that there are no campaigns supporting Caucasins. You yourself have probably never been racist in any sort of a public way, but you believe you are being persecuted by these organizations for things you’ve not done, but the fact is that when you are identified as part of a group, your group has persecuted against other races, whether you like it or not. That is why there are organizations protecting minority groups like asians and blacks, and not whites. sorry it’s like that.
I myself am part white and understand the frustrations you have, but I took a college course on multicultural America and it helped me see why our country’s the way it is.

By: Wolfie

Wolfie — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:09:41 +0000

Sounds like you’ve identified a real social problem…

By: True Patriot

True Patriot — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:34:46 +0000

MrHairyman
Mr Sceptic
Callumiain
Strike123_out
Angrymammal
Skitzee2K
That is, without a doubt, one of the best demolition jobs to a Q. that I have ever seen on here!
Well done!
Oh, and the Black Country associations….LMFAO!!!

By: The Patriot

The Patriot — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:26:50 +0000

It is not a matter of skin colour, it is a matter of ethnicity.
Have you noticed how the indigenous British people are gradually being denied their ethnicity? If I, an ethnically British person, went to an African country and told them that they have in effect no right to call their country their own, to choose their culture, religion and way of life, or justify defending their national interests, because ethnically there is no such thing as African. If I used this as a reason to call myself African, thus changing the meaning of ‘African’ from an ethnicity to one of national residence or citizenship, and claim what is theirs as my own. What would happen? The Lefties would probably start a war to drive my Colonial regime out and give Africa back to the Africans.

By: angrymam

angrymam — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:58:41 +0000

My personal view is that any group that discriminates based on race is illegal but that the law is wrong on this.
If a charity is able to give money to a black only group, then a charity should be allowed to give money and help to whites only if that is what they chose. Just as the same should apply with charities that only serve women, in that they should be allowed to fund just women or men if they want.
So long as the people who donate the money are aware of the restrictions that is fine with me.

By: jamand

jamand — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:39:05 +0000

In the UK the white british population are in the driving seat. We do not experience the barriers that exist for minority groups because of centuries of inequality, we have ready access to any type of help and support that we may require so we don’t need the specialised support of dedicated charities.
****EDIT****
Barriers clearly exist for minorities that do not exist for white british, to claim otherwise is simply obtuse and ignoring the stark reality.
You may be happy for elderly Asian sufferers of cataracts to experience the slow deterioration in their vision that will ultimately lead to total loss of sight. I have no objection to that elderly person having a charity provide an advocate that fully understands their needs and who can help them access the appropriate help in a system that is otherwise geared up for white brits.

By: MrHairym

MrHairym — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:28:57 +0000

UK – Doesn’t that tell all these so called goody goody PC Brigade users on here something………..
Race Relations only works ONE WAY – if you are black, asian, muslim or whatever – you can do what you like, say what you like and get away with it……
This country needs to get it’s priorities right and start kicking these people out.
There are probably hundreds more going around……..that you have not highlighted – what about all the ‘organisations’ set up that receive funding for Gay, Lesbian Green Eyed, blonde haired ferret collectors etc etc………why the hell do they need funding from the public – they aren’t exactly persecuted here are they……..
This country has lost all it’s priorities for it’s own people

By: Lewis

Lewis — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:32:18 +0000

I presume you have evidence of someone trying to set one up, and being legally prevented?
Charities generally get set up out of need. They get set up and run by everyday people. As over 90% of the country is white, you have to wonder why not one of these 90% thinks that specifically white people ‘need’ a charity. Maybe it’s because they have all the cards stacked in their favour already.
Have you looked into all the charities you listed? For example, the Asian Eye Care Trust of Stoke is for:
THE RELIEF OF POOR PERSONS SUFFERING FROM EYE DISEASE AND BLINDNESS IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD BY PROVIDING TREATMENT AND/OR GIVING GRANTS TO ORGANISATIONS ESTABLISHED FOR THE SAME PURPOSES. So it’s not actually colour or race specific.
Finally, here’s a UK based charity that helps white people – you can give them all your hard earned cash now: http://www.moldovaaidproject.org.uk/
EDIT: Lewis: 85.7% of the population is “white British”. If you then throw in Irish, Eastern European, Australian, Scandinavian etc etc, you get over 90%. My source for this is the last census carried out in 2001. I accept more immigrants have come in since then, but then a huge chunk of those have come from Eastern Europe.

By: Mr Sceptic

Mr Sceptic — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:42:23 +0000

because people believe we don’t need any help and that we are superior in our own land. but its not the case. i believe the white working male is a minority, if not now then in 10 years. but what happens when we all lose our jobs to immigrants then we have no charity to support us. also blacks and asian’s believe we have it easy, when we now have it the hardest due to “positive discrimination” where the employer will need a certain amount of black people a certain amount of homosexuals……… to comply with the governments discrimination act. this is true because we have to do it where i work- and mrhairyman “90% of the country is white” where do you get this from, you must live in a peacefull area then. everyday where i work its the other way around. i have a first hand experience with these non whites and they are violent criminals

By: N

Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:52:01 +0000

When you’ve checked that they all operate a colour bar, and refuse to help or allow membership to those who are not black or Asian, come back and tell us.
They will then be as bad as the BNP who only allow membership to whites.
Have you tried setting up a group targetted at white people? Don’t just tell us “it wouldn’t be allowed” – test it! Make sure, however that you allow those outside the target group membership.
EDIT: “True Patriot” – has he considered changing his name to “True Moron”? Has he actually read his rant?
1. No one has denied me my ethnicity. I’m still white European, English and British. Let’s not get into the race / ethnicity semantic argument.
2. No one stops you calling your country your own. But it isn’t just yours. There are 60 million of us that you have to share it with. Just because we don’t all want it run the way you want it, don’t throw your toys out of the pram and claim you’re not allowed to call your country “your own”. You only have one 60 millionth share in it!
3. No one stops you or I choosing our culture. What you can’t accept is that not everyone wants the same culture as you. You enjoy your culture, I’ll enjoy mine. Do you even know what you mean by your culture? Can you explain what it entails? Or is it just something from the BNP handbook you’ve copied and pasted.
4. No one but you dictates your religion. No one tells you you can’t worship who you want. In fact, and if you think about it you know I’m right, the only religious groups who even try to evangelise and recruit me are Christian ones. No Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Jew etc has ever tried to tell me I should join their religion. or do you want to use that of evidence of your exclusion; “The Hindus won’t try to convert me!”
5. No one prevents you choosing your way of life. Unless your way of life involves criminal acts.
6. What you are trying to say is that the term British should be reserved for white skinned people. Well, I’ve news for you – your view is very much a minority view. Most people are not so shallow and blinkered. Most people do not want to live in your “white-supremacist utopia”.
Nick Griffin famously wrote:
“Without the White race, nothing matters. [Other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create “Black Britons”, while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land”
It’s good to see you haven’t lost sight of your leader’s intentions.
Another one of the BNP mob, “letting the cat out of the bag”.
PS:
Christian Aid, anybody?