Alcoholism Recovery & Treatment

Question by : In re: “High alcohol tolerance= high drug tolerance,” are you willing to die listening to incomplete advice?
First, you must realize that in this alcohol-phillic society, we jeopardize our health and that of others by not telling the truth about alcohol as a drug. Alcohol, viewed as a drug, is in the general class of drugs known as sedatives, which includes all the barbiturates, including, but not limited to sodium thiopental (commonly, “sodium pentothal”) which is a very commonly used general anesthetic! People who are addicted to either “class” of drug, whether it be alcohol or barbiturates/sedatives, will exhibit both cross-tolerance and cross-addiction to any drug from the other class. When this first became well-known as a result of the study of alcoholics (many of whom also had problems with barbiturates) in the ‘60s and ‘70s, medical science came up with a new term to describe the illness, “alcoholism/sedative-ism” as so many of the factors of one “addiction” were common to the other, including, but not limited to the alcohol/sedative cross-tolerance and cross-addiction.

Second, you must realize that you are risking your life on the advice of people who may not know what they are talking about. For example, justOkay with his BIOS360. If you listen to this kind of advice, YOU MAY DIE!!!

Third (really, this should be first, but I’m trying to “get you to warm up to what I’m saying” to break through your denial), you are an alcoholic! You are addicted to the drug alcohol. Only people truly physically addicted to alcohol exhibit the type of abnormally high tolerance to the drug, alcohol, that you have exhibited. Assuming that you weigh half as much as a drinking male counterpart, drink the same drinks with the same volume and same alcoholic content, drink per drink, over the same period of time, then you have twice their alcohol content. If these men are passing out, at approximately a Blood Alcohol Concentration of 0.2 (0.08 is the limit for drunk driving in many US states)–where normal people lose consciousness, then your BAC is approximately 0.4, where most people–regardless of whether they’re addicted to alcohol or not–start doing one or both of two things: 1) getting brain damage, and 2) DYING!

The fact that you can drink so much alcohol means you’re putting yourself at greater risk for death, severe-injury, disease, etc.

You need to go to a detox or treatment center and have them explain this to you in more detail; ask them to explain the “tolerance plateau” to you.

Now, to cross-tolerance: if you’re having a surgery done, and you’re given a sedative drug as an anesthetic, you may require so much to put you under that you may have complications and be unable to have other-, opiate-, sedative-, etc.-, -pain medication immediately after.

Finally, to my “qualifications”, I’ve been in recovery from drug-, including alcohol-, -addiction, for 25 years, went through 5 months of treatment early on, worked in treatment for a while later on, and am fairly “well read”. Aside from that, in June or July, 1977, at age 21, while drinking at least two six-packs of beer daily, I broke a thumb. 10 days later (to make a long story short), it was set in a hospital. I lied (“minimized”) about how much I was drinking. Thus, one orthopedic surgeon, two anesthesiologists, and four or five interns (it was a “teaching hospital”) listened to me and not to their own better sense. They gave me an initial shot of pentothal; it didn’t put me to sleep. They gave me another one. I was out before they got the needle out. My heart rate and respiration dropped from normal to less than 40 beats per minute and 6 breaths per minute very quickly. They gave me two shots of adrenaline to keep the sedative-overdose from killing me. Then, they gave me a shot of a long-acting stimulant to get my vital signs back up in a range where they weren’t worried I’d potential die later on! THEN, post-operative, they couldn’t even give me an aspirin for fear of causing another overdose or bad-reaction, from all the sedative and all the other stuff they gave me to keep me from potentially dying from the sedative overdose.

Whether it’s through a true cross-addiction (and cross-tolerance), or just through an “addict’s mind-set”, you will most likely have addiction-/dependency-, withdrawal-, or other-problems with any opiate/synthetic-opiate pain medication, any sedatives, any benzodiazepines, etc., that doctors may prescribe for you.

YOU NEED HELP! You won’t find as much effective, timely help here online as you will at a detox, treatment center, or your local hospital, even if you have to go to the ER. I hope you live through this. I hope you haven’t already died. I HOPE YOU GET SOME HELP, OFFLINE! ASAP!!!

Best answer:

Answer by Chodemeat
Here’s a hint: die in a fire.

Know better? Leave your own answer in the comments!

My friend is doing some really bad things. She has recently started to deal drugs, LSD more specifically. She also constantly lies, and cannot by any means be trusted. She has brought pot into my house, and brings up drugs in front of my elementary school siblings; not in the positive don’t do them way either if you haven’t guessed that already. I don’t want her to destroy her own life, but if she does I don’t see why I can’t be her friend still. The problem is she is affecting me and the people around me. She already affected my family by bringing the drugs into my house and telling my young siblings stuff they should by no means know about. She also drove around with alcohol in her car, with me, and to make it worse she’s a minor. I can’t have her send me to jail. I want to go into counseling and want to help people by doing so, but most people know you probably won’t get a job if you’ve had a criminal record. I can’t let the people I want to help so bad in the future down because of how I screwed up now. I think maybe I’ve tried to kinda play counselor to my friend but I’m to involved to have that unbiased third party view. And when you counsel someone you don’t have to hang out with them and risk getting in trouble. The thing is I’m a christian and I believe in callings so i truly believe God wants me to go into counseling to help people and not screw that up; however I also believe Jesus wanted us to love and accept people. I do love her like a sister and I want to be able to be around her; but I don’t think God would want me to screw up my future goal of helping others either. This girl knows about God and has seen him, I’m positive, but she’s turned her back on him over and over again. I don’t know how to help her, she says it’s my fault and i should teach her about God, but she’s already been taught. I don’t know if i believe it’s my fault either but she says it is because I yell at her when she does bad things and it pushes her away from God. I still am not sure it’s my fault she doesn’t know God. But either way she is threatening my family and me; I want to be her friend but I’m not sure if it’s wrong or not. Please help me.

Here is my outpouring. Please don’t just answer with “get a divorce,” or “get counseling” because I need more than that. I met my husband in June 2008. He worked in the mall in the store across from mine. We were both 23. I was instantly (as was he) sexually attracted and exchanged numbers. The next day, we hung out and watched a movie and made out and he pressured me for sex but I said no. He smoked cigarettes and drank alcohol but knew I was straight-edge. We talked off and on, I flaked on him a few times and we ended up not talking again until maybe late late June 2008. He ended up getting arrested July 11 2008 and I was the first person he called. I instantly felt my heart break–there was something in him I needed and I truly cared about him. He was in jail for almost 3 months and we wrote eachother EVERY DAY. I visited him 2 days a week and would just sit outside the jail window when he didn’t have visits because I knew he could see me. He got out September 24th, and we (through the course of our letters and phone calls) became INSEPERABLE. He asked me to marry him and I said yes. We were married September 27th. When he got out, he said he wanted to change his life. No more smoking, drinking, he was continuing to stay off meth (he’d been clean for 9 months at the time) and now…we’re 7 months married, I’m 7 months pregnant, he’s smoking now, drinking alcohol, disappearing EVERY weekend and will NOT tell me where he is. He has relapsed with meth one time. I am not a saint in this. Because of my distrust, I look up his phone records, I go through his phone, even text strange numbers that he’s called late at night asking who it is. He lies about what friends’ house he’s going to be at, he tells me he’ll (for example) be home at 11pm on friday night and doesn’t come home until SUNDAY MORNING. I do not think he is cheating–he has my name tattooed on his neck and his wedding ring line is tanned on his hand. He swears he lives in the movie 8 Mile. He wants to be a rapper (he’s white…) so he (after he decided to FINALLY be honest about where he goes every weekend) goes and raps with his homeboys. He says he lies because he knows I’ll hate his friends but I tell him–I didn’t marry a rapper. I married a guy who was just as clingy as me. Not an alcohol drinking, smoking, lying, idiot that would leave me alone every weekend while I’m at home, 7 months pregnant. We have sex every couple of days and when I confronted him with my need to have sex daily (at the onset of marriage, we had sex three or four times a day) he says he’s “cool.” The truth came out when we argued in the car two nights ago: he told me to get in the backseat of his car and he was taking me to get some food at Sonic while he freestyled and drove with a 32 oz. Miller Highlife in his lap. I begged him not to drive drinking with me (and our unborn son) in the car plus he’s on probation so…but when we left Sonic and were sitting in a parking lot, I told him I wanted to sit in the passenger seat up front. So I got out and he started in on me because he thinks he doesn’t satisfy me sexually (which I NEVER said..just that we don’t do it enough.) and I said no, we don’t have sex at all. So he drove off and I was in this parking lot barefoot at 11pm. I didn’t know what to do–he sped over to me really quick and screamed out the window he was going to bring back “4 or 5 black guys to f**k (me) good” and then drove to the gas station nearby and stopped a guy presumably asking if he wanted to have sex with me. I started to walk to the grocery store to use the phone to call his sister and he came back and asked the grocery cart kid if he wanted to **** his wife’s “loose sl*tty p*ssy.” Eventually, he told me to get back in the car and we came home and laid in bed. I got so mad I started talking so filthy to him and crying asking him how he could call his wife and the mother of his child a slut and comment on my body like he did and he said it was true. LONG STORY SHORT: my husband and I have physically fought once before, we are constantly emotionally abusing each other, but at the same time, he’ll come home with my name tattooed on his neck and I feel sick thinking of him not in my or our son’s life. How can I stop being so controlling and is my controlling behavior leading him to act like this? What can we do…? We aren’t trailer trash hicks but I swear I feel like it sometimes.

This is a kind caring compassinate 16 year old boy. maybe just a teenager but i dont think so. i beleive he is stealing from me even though he hasnt been caught red handed when confronted of course he denies it lokking straight in my eyes. hes smoking weed chewing snuff smoking cigrettes drinking alcohol. i dont believe any thing else. to have him tested results are confidential meaning i cant get the results. failing school due to just not doing the work he asked, which has been a problem for many many years. the school isnt helpful their just pushing him through THE CHILD LEFT BEHIND. he attends school that isnt a problem. no major behavior problems in school other than non compliance with his school work. ive tried grounding, loss of priveledges, talking, counseling, yelling everything i could think of plus stuck with it without success. father lives in the home along with a oder brother who is 18. no help from either of these two basically. this school year he will actually fail.

I divorced a very emotionally abusive man who was counseled for narcissism and bipolar illness. He took me through mental ups and downs for 11 years. He cheated, stole money, lied, abused alcohol and drugs. I had never heard of anyone being a narcissist until his counselers labeled him. They said he would never stop trying to manipulate and abuse me. I should get him out of my life. Any advice on recovery or similar experiences?